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		<title>Going Dutch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still in catch-up mode after a very useful (and pleasant) trip over to the Netherlands, to see Bas van Gils, Erik Proper at Capgemini Utrecht, and Jos van Oosten of Q-Tips NL. Bas is characteristic of a new generation of enterprise architects, with a strong background in strategy and formal ontology; Erik is a key [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still in catch-up mode after a very useful (and pleasant) trip over to the Netherlands, to see <a href="http://strategic-architecture.blogspot.com/" title="Bas van Gils - Strategic Architecture">Bas van Gils</a>, <a href="http://erikproper.blogspot.com/" title="Erik Proper weblog">Erik Proper</a> at Capgemini Utrecht, and <a href="http://www.q-tips.nl/personalia/jos_van_oosten.htm" title="Jos van Oosten at Q-Tips">Jos van Oosten</a> of Q-Tips NL. Bas is characteristic of a new generation of enterprise architects, with a strong background in strategy and formal ontology; Erik is a key player in <a href="http://www.naf.nl/" title="Nederlands Architectuur Forum">NAF</a>, the Netherlands Architecture Forum; Jos has been working with the Netherlands police and others on architecture for a fair few years now, and is a leading light in the <a href="http://www.sqeme.nl/english/default.php" title="SqEME process framework">SqEME</a> process-modelling standard. Both Erik and Jos are also active in the Open Group, with Jos currently the lead (I think?) in their Business Architecture Working Group.</p>
<p>&#8216;Twas a great couple of days: Utrecht was lovely in the spring, bicycles everywhere; Amsterdam perhaps a bit too sleazy and tawdry for my taste (compared to Utrecht, anyway), and mostly forgettable apart from some seriously dangerous bookshops. <img src='http://weblog.tetradian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  A country where the public transport was not only easy and everywhere and cheap (compared to Britain) but was uncrowded and fast and actually worked (again unlike Britain&#8230; <img src='http://weblog.tetradian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  ). Nice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to go there again sometime &#8211; preferably when I <em>do</em> actually have the time and the mindspace to play tourist for once!</p>
<p>Thanks again, folks &#8211; all much appreciated. See you again soon, I hope.</p>
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