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	<title>Comments on: VPEC-T</title>
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	<description>Random ramblings over the metaphoric edge</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Smith</title>
		<link>http://weblog.tomgraves.org/index.php/2008/07/26/vpec-t/comment-page-1/#comment-27882</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might be of use: http://southbeach-screenshots.blogspot.com/2009/06/vpect-t-and-southbeachmycreativity.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be of use: <a href="http://southbeach-screenshots.blogspot.com/2009/06/vpect-t-and-southbeachmycreativity.html" rel="nofollow">http://southbeach-screenshots.blogspot.com/2009/06/vpect-t-and-southbeachmycreativity.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
		<link>http://weblog.tomgraves.org/index.php/2008/07/26/vpec-t/comment-page-1/#comment-20272</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Colin

Yes, agreed - my point in this post, and in this area in general is to re-use what we have, by getting the present generation of nominal &#039;enterprise architects&#039; to start thinking wider, rather than trying to throw the whole lot out. (Sure, some of the IT-centric thinking _does_ need to be thrown out in its entirety, but much is re-usable once there&#039;s awareness of the broader scope needed at the real enterprise-level)

Will follow through in more depth when I come back from vacation - I&#039;m currently in Portugal, in part in the vain hope that it&#039;ll get me to finish the now long-overdue book &quot;Bridging the Silos: enterprise architecture for IT-architects&quot;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colin</p>
<p>Yes, agreed &#8211; my point in this post, and in this area in general is to re-use what we have, by getting the present generation of nominal &#8216;enterprise architects&#8217; to start thinking wider, rather than trying to throw the whole lot out. (Sure, some of the IT-centric thinking _does_ need to be thrown out in its entirety, but much is re-usable once there&#8217;s awareness of the broader scope needed at the real enterprise-level)</p>
<p>Will follow through in more depth when I come back from vacation &#8211; I&#8217;m currently in Portugal, in part in the vain hope that it&#8217;ll get me to finish the now long-overdue book &#8220;Bridging the Silos: enterprise architecture for IT-architects&#8221;. <img src='http://weblog.tomgraves.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Colin Beveridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Beveridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom 

I agree that it&#039;s good to see people thinking beyond the rush to IT. However, the Green and Bate list highlighted in your post will need much more wrapping around it (for example understanding and learning) to become truly effective.

Nevertheless I am reassured that more people are recognising that the IT-centric paradigm is redundant and that the time to move forward is long overdue. Check out my blog (Fighting the Trillion Dollar Bonfire) if you want to know more about my own position on this very serious issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom </p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s good to see people thinking beyond the rush to IT. However, the Green and Bate list highlighted in your post will need much more wrapping around it (for example understanding and learning) to become truly effective.</p>
<p>Nevertheless I am reassured that more people are recognising that the IT-centric paradigm is redundant and that the time to move forward is long overdue. Check out my blog (Fighting the Trillion Dollar Bonfire) if you want to know more about my own position on this very serious issue.</p>
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