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	<title>Comments on: The Enterprise Canvas, Part 7: Patterns</title>
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	<description>Random ramblings over the metaphoric edge</description>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, agree re &quot;there is a need for BPM to be part EA rather than something separate&quot;.

Though perhaps another way to put it is that EA needs to be interested in &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;. BPM is a distinct discipline in its own right, with its own distinct skillsets: but enterprise-level problems do arise if it isn&#039;t properly connected with everything else. Given that BPM is a specialist discipline, it&#039;s not really its job (or often its competence) to think in terms of overall cross-enterprise impacts: that&#039;s what EA is there to do. All that we need to ask of BPM is that they respect the need for cross-enterprise integration, and at least listen to the advice and suggestions from elsewhere that we bring to them from other specialisms in the enterprise.

That&#039;s also what I meant by the Enterprise Canvas as &#039;one map to bind them all&#039;: it&#039;s not a panacea, &#039;Life The Universe, Everything&#039;, it&#039;s just a really useful way to bind together all manner of other models, highlight the gaps, and provide pointers as to how to fill those gaps. That&#039;s what I hope this shows, anyway.

Thanks again, of course. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, agree re &#8220;there is a need for BPM to be part EA rather than something separate&#8221;.</p>
<p>Though perhaps another way to put it is that EA needs to be interested in <em>everything</em>. BPM is a distinct discipline in its own right, with its own distinct skillsets: but enterprise-level problems do arise if it isn&#8217;t properly connected with everything else. Given that BPM is a specialist discipline, it&#8217;s not really its job (or often its competence) to think in terms of overall cross-enterprise impacts: that&#8217;s what EA is there to do. All that we need to ask of BPM is that they respect the need for cross-enterprise integration, and at least listen to the advice and suggestions from elsewhere that we bring to them from other specialisms in the enterprise.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also what I meant by the Enterprise Canvas as &#8216;one map to bind them all&#8217;: it&#8217;s not a panacea, &#8216;Life The Universe, Everything&#8217;, it&#8217;s just a really useful way to bind together all manner of other models, highlight the gaps, and provide pointers as to how to fill those gaps. That&#8217;s what I hope this shows, anyway.</p>
<p>Thanks again, of course. <img src='http://weblog.tetradian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, Good to see the examples. 

I was particularly intrigued by the BPMN one as it demonstrates what a BPMN diagram doesn&#039;t show us.
It indirectly also illustrates why there is a need for BPM to be part of EA rather than something separate as some blogs have proposed - i.e. because you need EA to complete the missing parts of the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Good to see the examples. </p>
<p>I was particularly intrigued by the BPMN one as it demonstrates what a BPMN diagram doesn&#8217;t show us.<br />
It indirectly also illustrates why there is a need for BPM to be part of EA rather than something separate as some blogs have proposed &#8211; i.e. because you need EA to complete the missing parts of the picture.</p>
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